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| RE: Sisyphus Programming Guide - So far | 21 Relevance | 7 years ago | ddkengr | Community Tracks | |
| Thanks for the info... I have also found that the best WAy to convert xy to polar is by determining the offset angle between Point 1, and Point 2, and then adding (or subtracting that angle to the current theta angle (of Point 1) This is good because it does not matter "where" the Points are, and theta can be anything to start. (so if you start with a erase track that ends at theta 450, the code will continue from there at 450ish) Programatically it goes like this (btw concept taken from sisbot code models.js "angleBetween") Where X1Y1 is Point ... | |||||
| RE: Question ref. track start points | 7 Relevance | 5 years ago | adambrower | Community Tracks | |
| No, the question concerns the relationship between the end Point of a track that ends at rho=1 and the start Point of the next track in a playlist. I WAnt to know what (if anything) determines the start Point of track 2 on the circle described by rho=1. Attachment : example.png | |||||
| RE: Track organization. | 7 Relevance | 6 years ago | heropup | App Usage | |
| @mdolfis: By design, the WAy tracks are played, there isn't a distinction between "center-edge" and "edge-center." Here's how it currently works, and this includes the erase pattern. If the next track to be played is "center-edge" or "edge-center," wherever the ball has ended, the table will automatically read the next track in forward or reverse order so as to not need to jump from edge to center or vice versa. So for example, if the current track ended at the edge, but the list of coordinates for the next track begins at the center and ends at the edge ... | |||||
| Design Question on Base Orientation for Making Tracks | 7 Relevance | 7 years ago | crsolomon | Community Tracks | |
| Simple question on orientation of the designs that are not symmetric - what is the correct "top" Point to use as the bottom and top of the design? I assume that the 0,1 Point is the "top" of the table and base the design off that reference Point. I have seen in the tracks that are in the Library that there is a range of choices - the face and serpent designs have a different base than the sailboat. I have written programs that can output a design in any angle, but I wonder if there are "rules" that should be set or followed. Any comments? | |||||
| RE: Option to reverse RGBW color rho? | 5 Relevance | 6 years ago | belross | App Updates | |
| Yeah that's pretty much what I figured happened hehe. I simply removed the original LED strip and put the NeoPixels in their place in the same orientation, including the connectors. At this Point it would be a big hassle to remove, flip, and re-adhere the NeoPixels. I'd rather try SSHing and fiddling with the code myself if that's an option. Could someone please Point me in the direction of SSH instructions/login credentials? I've seen a few posts mention it but haven't found anything concrete. | |||||
| RE: Design Question on Base Orientation for Making Tracks | 5 Relevance | 7 years ago | Bruce | Community Tracks | |
| You touch on an interesting Point. Yes, there is an absolute meaning of "up". It is determined by where "home" is for the Theta (rotational) axis - which is a physical sensor in fixed location. At this Point in development, we haven't been religious about handling Theta - as opposed to Rho, where things are not at all forgiving if you start in the wrong place. For now, up is the Theta heading after the first homing after bootup (sensored). Tracks in a playlist start (Theta-wise) wherever they find themselves. (Ability to control this will improve...) | |||||
| RE: Sisyphus Programming Guide - So far | 7 Relevance | 7 years ago | crsolomon | Community Tracks | |
| 1) I agree about the theta can be any value - I WAs trying to make the Point that start and end rho had to be the opposite of the starting value. I'll change that and since I make a Point of always erasing the board when I start a pattern (to get a clean pattern , theta for me always is zero. 2) I do realize that in essence there is only One type of command - just data pairs where the ball moves from one to the other. But anyone programming the table needs to be aware of the "jump" that occurs (and WAs illustrated in the document) if you make the d ... | |||||
| RE: Track corruption on restore -- please add Backup/Restore | 5 Relevance | 5 years ago | john.hughan | Table Usage | |
| ... at startup, and then....nothing. No lights, no motion, no connectivity through the app. I've seen this multiple times in the past even after performing a proper shutdown. So I did what I always did: hard power cycled it by just unplugging it. This time it came up, but when I opened the app, I saw a notice I'd never seen before, saying the table had been improperly shut down, that a file error had been fixed, and that the table may have been reset to factory defaults as part of that fix -- which I discovered it had been. SERIOUSLY!? "Hey, your table wo ... | |||||
| Question ref. track start points | 5 Relevance | 5 years ago | adambrower | Community Tracks | |
| When running a playlist, what is the relationship between the end Point of track 1 and the start Point of track 2? Because I particularly enjoy the effect of one track overlaying another, I have noticed that playing the same two tracks in succession does not always return the same result. For instance, running triald over tensig2, in 2-ball mode, sometimes yields a very pleasing Escherian tesselation effect (see attached), but this is seemingly unpredictable. Attachment : 8A348428-6621-4E2C-A9C6-8059CBEAAA77.jpeg | |||||
| RE: Repeating tracks! Repeating tracks! Repeating tracks! Repeating tracks! Repeating tracks! Repeating tracks!... | 3 Relevance | 4 years ago | qcp | Beta releases and bugs | |
| Still having this issue. Seems to be related to the new keep/clear options from the last update. Any word on when a fix will be released? -edit- I'd take a reverted app version over a broken one at this Point. | |||||
| RE: Erase option | 3 Relevance | 4 years ago | adambrower | Other Development | |
| Hmmm… I think most owners relish the surprises that come from shuffled tracks playing over one another. That's the Point of shuffling. Erasing between all tracks eliminates that serendipity. My guess is that if you, to the contrary, enjoy erasing a track before playing the next, you'll just have to keep building your playlists the old fashion WAy. | |||||
| RE: Offset bug-like event | 3 Relevance | 5 years ago | adambrower | Beta releases and bugs | |
| Your conjecture WAs accurate: the tracks in question were 10 (outside-in) from Sandify, and I neglected to set the end Point to center. Thanks, Bruce. | |||||
| Connects to wifi, lights for a moment at start then nothing. | 3 Relevance | 5 years ago | burningamd | Table Usage | |
| This happens a lot on power loss. The table just stops working and I have to hard reset it. I'm looking for an alternate, easier solution. So when I power it up there's a quick spin of blue light from the RGB, the red light is on and the green light is flashing periodically on the board. I can see the table connected to my access Point but going to its IP it wont communicate. Other than that the LEDs stay off and there's no ball movement. The only WAy I have found in the past to get it working again is a hard reset. | |||||
| RE: In and out for no reason | 3 Relevance | 5 years ago | matt2 | App Usage | |
| I think I know what this one is, there WAs a bug in a past release that would cause this behavior. Tracks that have more Points than will appear on a table are truncated and resaved. But, the bug WAs: when resaving, it saved an extra vert in it that is dynamically added to ensure the ball starts at the Point it should (at the center, or at the periphery). The fix is that you should delete and redownload the track in your picture (C WArp 3B, I believe). All of the original tracks are available in the Community section, Sisyphus Originals. Please update to t ... | |||||
| RE: Maintenance track wish | 5 Relevance | 5 years ago | Bruce | Table Usage | |
| As several other users have noted, simple physics makes it inevitable that sand will accumulate at Rho 1.0. I take issue with a couple parts of this statement. First is the term "simple," and second, "accumulate". The latter is a minor quibble: it's obvious that if the ball's reach is confined to a perimeter, this will result in what I call the "terminal berm" (others have used "windrow"). This ridge does build up over time, but only to a Point, which is self-limited by the angle of repose for the silica we use. But my real disagreement is with using "simple" to describe the physics behind devising strategic plowing strategies using a rolling sphere on / through granular matter. It "seems" like it should be easy to create Sisyphus paths that move sand in a desired direction. Most people (including me) intuit that the erase pattern should move sand out when running from Rho 0 to 1, and in when running from 1 to 0. But this is greatly dependent on the tightness of the spiral (how close successive passes are). My empiric experience suggests simple Archimedes spirals have very little net effect on overall sand distribution. I tried several times over the past 20 years to devise an efficient strategy for "plowing" routines, and never succeeded. I'm not saying it is impossible - I'm pretty sure it is. But it's not easy, at least for me. However, dumb luck + paying attention, led to noting that tracks that repeatedly move in and out while precessing around the field, when run from Rho 1 to 0, are very efficient at plowing in toward the center. Case in Point: Create a playlist composed of erase then apache. Play it sequentially with repeat on, overnight. And yes, during our failed struggle to improve 2-ball reliability, I made several attempts at devising a plow-in track that started in >1 territory, hoping to break up and move the terminal berm into <1 territory - with extremely little success. Growing up and living in Minnesota, I (along with all my fellow northerners) am very familiar with plows. My take-home from this exercise: rolling spheres make piss poor plows. 🙂 (ps - would love to be proven wrong) | |||||
| I think i brake my table | 5 Relevance | 5 years ago | gserruys | Connectivity | |
| I just receive m table and i love it. When I receive it it WAs working well in local connection but I couldn’t catch my home wi-fi, I know is a common issue. I think I should never try to resolve it. First i try to catch m home wi-fi with my phone and then also with my computer I doesn’t work.( I m on IOS, and mac) Then I try with the solution of holding the reset button and hold it +- 5 second and it WAs not working. This is the Point I start doing wrong. After that I try the full reset on holding the reset button like 45 second and WAs n ... | |||||
| Consistent trouble playing Reuleaux_tight | 5 Relevance | 6 years ago | john.hughan | Table Usage | |
| I've encountered this problem on multiple occasions now. Basically, I have a Favorites playlist that I typically have on shuffle. Whenever community track "Reuleaux_tight" by dbullardWebcenter attempts to play, the table gets stuck going back and forth on a partial "coarse erase" and eventually just tracing a circle (not spiral) along the outside edge of that spiral. During this time, the ETA progress bar for the track in the app will often show either 0 time elapsed and 0 time remaining, or else get stuck at a separate Point in time, e.g. 1:37:20 elapsed and 35+ hours remaining, with neither of those figures changing as time goes on. I have the 36" 2-ball RGBLED Coffee Table running firmware 1.10.73. Below is a photo of what the table looks like when it gets stuck doing this. In this specific case, the table had just previously finished playing "goulet_cirstar5a_ee" by goulet. As shown below, a very coarse erase spiral has been drawn over it. At the time of the first photo below, the ball had just finished working clockwise from center to reach the outer tip of the displayed spiral and had begun to work backwards. At the time of the second photo, the ball had begun drawing a continuous circle (not spiral) around the outside edge, working clockwise, opposite the direction of the originally drawn spiral. If you follow the spiral from center outward tracing its clockwise path, you can see where the paths "converge", which is the Point where the ball switched to getting stuck in a counterclockwise loop. Attachment : Sisyphus.jpg | |||||
| How can i force start a track in middle or edge? | 3 Relevance | 6 years ago | Lemmuhj | Community Tracks | |
| If i run the erase track and the ball stops in the middle, i usually pick a track that looks like it will start from the middle. Its disappointing when the ball travels across the table to the edge to start the design...leaving the ugly path on the final design. The same thing happens if the ball is stopped on the edge..if i WAnt it to start making the design on the edge, sometimes it will go to the center. How or can i choose the balls starting Point for a design?? | |||||
| RE: Delete track capability? | 3 Relevance | 6 years ago | matt2 | App Updates | |
| Force Orientation fixes the direction (up?) that the track draws. Normally, when one track ends the theta (rotation) continues relative to where the last one stopped. This forces the ball to start at a zero Point. Example: the snowboarder will always be drawn facing the same direction if Force Orientation is selected for it. | |||||
| RE: track contest question | 3 Relevance | 6 years ago | dithermaster | Community Tracks | |
| Not yet that I can find, but I'm sure there will be a WAy to download them at some time. Surely one Point of the contest WAs to add to the library. | |||||
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